Just when you think he couldn’t lose any more marbles, Souder proves us wrong.  In an article written by Sylvia Smith and published in the Journal-Gazette, Souder unabashedly proclaimed,  “The health insurance bill being written by congressional Democrats “will probably steer people to use public funds to kill themselves.”  Souder is referring to Title II, Subtitle C, Section 1233.

Here is the offending part of the legislation:

Advance Care Planning Consultation

‘(hhh)(1) Subject to paragraphs (3) and (4), the term ‘advance care planning consultation’ means a consultation between the individual and a practitioner described in paragraph (2) regarding advance care planning, if, subject to paragraph (3), the individual involved has not had such a consultation within the last 5 years. Such consultation shall include the following:CommentsPermalink

‘(A) An explanation by the practitioner of advance care planning, including key questions and considerations, important steps, and suggested people to talk to.CommentsPermalink

‘(B) An explanation by the practitioner of advance directives, including living wills and durable powers of attorney, and their uses.CommentsPermalink

‘(C) An explanation by the practitioner of the role and responsibilities of a health care proxy.CommentsPermalink

‘(D) The provision by the practitioner of a list of national and State-specific resources to assist consumers and their families with advance care planning, including the national toll-free hotline, the advance care planning clearinghouses, and State legal service organizations (including those funded through the Older Americans Act of 1965).CommentsPermalink

‘(E) An explanation by the practitioner of the continuum of end-of-life services and supports available, including palliative care and hospice, and benefits for such services and supports that are available under this title.CommentsPermalink

‘(F)(i) Subject to clause (ii), an explanation of orders regarding life sustaining treatment or similar orders, which shall include–CommentsPermalink

‘(I) the reasons why the development of such an order is beneficial to the individual and the individual’s family and the reasons why such an order should be updated periodically as the health of the individual changes;CommentsPermalink

‘(II) the information needed for an individual or legal surrogate to make informed decisions regarding the completion of such an order; andCommentsPermalink

‘(III) the identification of resources that an individual may use to determine the requirements of the State in which such individual resides so that the treatment wishes of that individual will be carried out if the individual is unable to communicate those wishes, including requirements regarding the designation of a surrogate decision maker (also known as a health care proxy).

Nowhere in the relevant part of the legislation do I see any notion that us older folks will be “steered” toward suicide.  If anything, perhaps lawyers should be worried that it will take away some of their business since providing end-of-life consultations is something lawyers undertake.  They discuss with their clients all manner of ways to prepare for old age and death including living wills, health care proxies, and wills.    Given Souder’s ridiculous mental gymnastics, wouldn’t this also be encouraging suicide?

But, hey, why would Souder let facts get in the way?  He has consistently manipulated situations using scare tactics that would make writers of science fiction proud.  So, my advice to seniors?  Get off that ledge –  the Health Care bill will not make you jump.


About Charlotte A. Weybright

I own a home in the historical West Central Neighborhood of Fort Wayne, Indiana. I have four grown sons and nine grandchildren - four grandsons and five granddaughters. I love to work on my home, and I enjoy crafts of all types. But, most of all, I enjoy being involved in political and community issues.
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  1. Jim Wetzel says:

    Concerning our glorious congresscreature, Marky-Mark S., there is a faint ray of hope to cheer us up on a gloomy Saturday morning, and it concerns the previous post. The map, showing the areas of the U.S. that are suitable for the spread of the pythons, definitely includes D.C. in the green area. It occurs to me that Pudgy Mark might look like a tasty repast to some of our slithering reptilian friends.

    Hey, all God’s critters gotta eat.

  2. Jim:

    Hmm – never thought of it that way. The only challenge for the python is that as it goes North, the temperatures are a little cooler. Even a degree or two would slow the pythons down, but, gosh, looking at Mr. Souder, I doubt he could outrun one even if it slithers along at a snail’s pace.

  3. Judith says:

    Please don’t joke about assination–that’s the line many on the far-right are saying regarding President Obama and others. Glen Beck pretended to poison Nancy Pelosi on the Fox News station, with lots of laughter on the set.

    At the rally for healthcare reform right here in Fort Wayne, protestors who don’t want to allow discussion of the issue tried to drown out the speakers! This is not what has made America great!!! We need to get back to rational discussion, listening and solving of issues like healthcare. We can’t sit back and let mobs destroy this vital interchange of opinions!!

  4. Judith:

    Where on earth did you come up with the notion of assassination? Here is the definition of assassinate:

    — to kill suddenly or secretively, especially a politically prominant person; murder premeditatedly and treacherously.

    Reptiles don’t assassinate people – people assassinate people. Gosh, do not get so caught up in this debate that you parse every phrase and comment.

    You are talking about people disrupting the rallies, etc. Jim simply made an observation about the extent that the pythons could spread.

    The fact that you somehow perceived his comment to be about assassination is truly remarkable.

  5. Judith says:

    So,I know you two are joking. But the fact that people like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh are hinting we would be better off if President Obama and Nancy Pelosi were no longer with us casts doubts on any joking about wishing physical harm to an elected official. When some of the mobs attending info meetings show they’d like to hang officials who promote health care reform, there is cause for concern. When people at a John McCain campaign rally shout, “Kill him'” referring to Barack Obama, we have to wonder about America’s future.
    Even here in Fort Wayne, some of the shouts and signs yesterday were vile against President Obama and Nancy Pelosi!
    I also know I do get “carried away”, so I apologize if I offended either of you!

  6. Norma says:

    In the early 1970s, we probably never thought we’d have a Christian president who believed it was OK to kill a born alive child either. Strange things happen with government, and people are right to very, very suspicious of the wording in this bill.

  7. Norma:

    I assume you are referring to partial birth abortion. I hope you are not serious when you assume President Obama or anyone else for that matter condones “killing” a living child. Partial birth abortion is used in very rare cases where the child has no chance of survival after he or she is born.

    Having lost a son in 1970 who suffered from a birth defect so severe he could not survive, I have to tell you, the decision has to be an agonizing one for the doctor and the mother.

    My son was born without a brain and a skull – just the skin covering the brain cavity. In those days ultrasounds were not available, so I went through 24 hours of agonizing labor not knowing my son would die within a short time of his birth. The doctor finally had to pull him out with forceps since my labor was going nowhere, and I was exhausted.

    To make accusations that anyone casually believes in killing a living child is ludicrous. I will not judge a woman who is put in this situation – I have been there and it is probably the worst thing that can ever happen to a parent. Would I have chosen to have a partial birth abortion (had they been legal), I would not have. But that is me.

    I will leave the decision to that woman and her doctor knowing full well that it is a heart-wrenching decision.

    When you state things like a President who believes in killing a living child, you contribute to the misinformation and downright lies that are spread to instill fear to gain support for your position.

  8. Judith:

    I understand what you are saying, but what about demonstrations where politicians are burned in effigy? Isn’t this also suggesting death to our leaders? Yet this form of protest is protected.

    I just don’t think Jim’s comment about the python moving up to the D.C. area or my response falls into the same vein as shouting “kill him.”

    I probably should not have responded; however, Souder’s somewhat overweight status brought that to mind.

    I saw the pictures in the Sunday paper showing the screaming protesters who showed up to disrupt the health care rally. I imagine the big companies are behind these staged protests. At least that is what I heard.

  9. Marymary says:

    Norma: Specifics please. Why are people right to worried about the wording of the bill? Living wills and end-of-life planning are not about suicide, assisted suicide, or any such thing.

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